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Post by cloudbat on Oct 7, 2012 19:54:16 GMT -6
I legit snorted at that.
Because the Plot Leash is why. And yes, he is one of the better characters in this book.
Sure she does, but making it seem legitimate and removing any doubt will help, I think. I mean, she wants to be deputy, and I'm guessing not naming a father for her kits would not help that ambition and put her in a suspicious light.
The bit about being spread to ShadowClan made me snort though.
That is possible, and while it's the first (believe me, I know) it's fascinating to hear what might have been if this book were better written.
I thank you for your thoughts, Grey. Next Diary coming very soon.
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Post by cloudbat on Oct 7, 2012 20:02:44 GMT -6
Blue Sue is experiencing the miracle of birth.
Spottedsue is the med apprentice helping out, and “Her memory for herbs was outstanding, and even more important, the pretty young tortoiseshell’s compassion shone in every word and every look.”
Okay. There’s Sueish, and then there’s just flipping ridiculous. Really? She’s NEVER impatient, snarky, grumpy, or irritated with anyone? She has no depth or realistic characterization to her at all? I may hate Blue Sue, but goddang. I’d pick even her over this sugar-sweetened horror.
Blue Sue snaps at Spottedsue when she places her paws off as she’s “wracked by another contraction.” Spottedsue only frets about hurting her. Featherwhisker gets a gold star as he says queens can be a bit crabby when kitting and “Some are crabbier than others.”
Bluefur snips back at him, though admittedly she is in a lot of pain. “Oh, Snowfur, help me! Soft breath stirred her ear fur, and an achingly familiar scent wreathed around her. Not much longer, my precious sister.”
Run for your lives, everyone, Gollum is possessing Snowfur.
A kit is finally a born and Spottedsue is ordered to “Lick him fiercely!”
Slurp that thing, girl.
“Bluefur leaned forward and sniffed her son. It was the most perfect scent in the world.”
I wouldn’t think bodily fluids mixed with wet cat made the most perfect scent in the world, but who knows, maybe it’s marketable as a perfume or Yankee Candle.
Blue Sue also has two daughters. Oh look, it’s Thrushpelt! Hi Thrushpelt! Who is keeping up his side of the bargain magnificently without even technically lying, we are told. I like this guy.
He tells Blue Sue he would have been very proud to be their father. Ehhh…a bit corny but I’ll forgive him. For a plot tool he’s rather enjoyable.
Blue Sue names her first two kits Stonekit and Mistykit, since she wants names that remind her of the river. Fine, it’s a cute bit of sentimentality.
…and then we get her “pale gray-and-white kit” named Mosskit. Yes, Mosskit.
Anyone seen pale gray and white moss? Tally? Show of hands?
Didn’t think so. Maybe there’s some rare English species I don’t know of. Still, I don’t know about you, but I think of the color green when I think of moss.
Featherwhisker notes that she didn’t let Thrushpelt decide on any of the names and “Behind his eyes (wait what? So in his brain?) curiosity gleamed.”
Stop it, Featherwhisker, you’re not allowed to be this intelligent. ThunderClan frowns upon this sort of thing.
Blue Sue licks her children and promises to love them enough for both her and Oakheart. My heart would be warmed if I actually cared.
Next page skips to half a moon later and the kits are already running around in snow.
Yeah, I’m not even going to comment on this one. The Erins have already shown that they give roughly no craps on realistic kittens and motherhood.
Oh and Blue Sue worries that her kits will get too cold.
Hmm. The kits are playing in snow. Snow is cold and wet. They are TWO WEEKS OLD and lack sufficient body mass to keep themselves warm.
I can’t possibly figure out what the answer is. Nope. Totally stumped.
Then we skip to random cats having conversations, Sunstar and Stormtail worrying about the lack of prey, and then Featherwhisker and Goosefeather doing something…and then I lose interest.
Oh wait, Dr. Hobo is approaching Blue Sue with a “fierce, glazed look in his eyes that made her pelt tingle.” (The tingling probably signals the approach of another plot contrivance.)
Hold on a minute. Fierce eyes are usually focused and bright. Glazed eyes are usually unfocused and dull. ERROR, PLEASE TERMINATE THE COMMAND AND TRY AGAIN.
Do the authors even read what they write? Or does it break the illusion of happiness?
Blue Sue glances at her kits “who were now tumbling down the snow that had drifted against the warriors’ den.”
Blah kittens blah Dr. Hobo says ““This was not part of the prophecy,” Goosefeather hissed. “Fire must burn without bonds.”” (Referring to Blue Sue’s kits, of course.)
What? All he ever said was that Blue Sue was fire and was going to blaze through the forest. No further details were ever given, unless I missed something. I mean sure the so-called “prophecy” didn’t mention having kits, but neither did it forbid it. I don’t understand where he’s coming from with this unless to provide more angst. It’s for the angst, isn’t it.
Blue Sue gets ready to verbally smack him and thinks “She may have doubted once that a fire burned inside her, (wait what) but she was sure now that it did.”
Ey? I have never seen any mention of this, whatsoever. Besides, what is she even referring to? A fire of bravery, determination, Sueness, etc…? No comprendo. Where was the doubt and why is it now certain? Why do I care? What is the meaning of life?
“She felt it scorching beneath her pelt, giving her the strength of a lion to protect her kits.”
That must hurt. Also, what are you protecting them from, Dr. Hobo and his stoner cult? That WOULD make sense, admittedly. Stay above the influence.
“The prophecy can wait,” she growled. “My kits need me now.”
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but I’m actually on Blue Sue’s side here.
Dr. Hobo says, what about your Clan? (As if he cares.) He adds that if Hedgehog (Thistleclaw) becomes deputy it’ll be the end of ThunderClan. (Why?) Blue Sue retorts that her kits need her. Dr. Hobo says they have a father who would raise them and comments that he saw her and Oakheart at Fourtrees.
Okay. Leaving aside the fact that that’s ASTOUNDINGLY creepy (and contrived), the world’s freakiest medicine cat continues.
Her stalker uncle says that he knows she never meant to betray her Clan (don’tthinkabouthowheknowsthis, don’tthinkabouthowheknowsthis) “But these kits will drown in blood with the rest of their Clanmates (oh Thistleclaw and his ready supply of corpses) unless you act. You are still the fire that will scorch a different path for ThunderClan.”
Different path from what? It’s always implied that Thistleclaw as a leader would be sooooo terrible, but I’m not buying it. Yes, he’s not a nice cat, but neither is Blue Sue. They’re both selfish, immature brats who lack a depth of character and the only real difference between them is that Blue Sue isn’t as bloodthirsty. (For reasons unknown. It’s never shown why Hedgehog is the way he is or why Blue Sue is so much better.)
Frankly, I think it would have been a lot more interesting to see him struggle and grow as a character and leader instead of the boring path of the protagonist’s contrived victory.
But what do I know?
“Was Goosefeather right? Was she the only one who could save her Clan? He had been wrong before. (EXACTLY, so why the frick are you even listening to him?) His Clanmates had stopped listening to his dark warnings long before he’d retired to the elders’ den. (Good for them, do the same.) Did he really know what their warrior ancestors had planned for the Clans? (Hint: No.)” She asks StarClan for a sign and does not receive one.
Perhaps they’re too busy laughing at the absurdity of the situation.
A hunting patrol returns with a sparrow and everyone laments the lack of prey. Sunstar says the queens need to be fed first. Good Sunstar, follow the code.
Cats eat the sparrow, we’re informed that Tawnyspots, the Fail O’Suckyname deputy (he’s a gray tabby) is very, very ill. Blue Sue asks if he’s dying and Featherwhisker says he’s not getting better. Oh just come out and say it, it’s obvious.
Blue Sue then proceeds to stare at Thistleclaw, who is described as “dark brown” when in fact we have been previously told he is white and gray. Continuity fail.
He’s covered in blood!...somehow. Then Dr. Hobo’s tail touches her shoulder (ew) and the blood disappears. “She caught Goosefeather’s eye, and he nodded. He’d seen it too. A vision of ThunderClan’s path if Thistleclaw was to lead them.”
Ain’t that convenient. And contrived. Also, all it shows is that he’s covered in blood, not necessarily anyone else. Just saying.
Blue Sue is all noble and dramatic, thinking “I have no choice. I have to save my Clan.” She’s thinking about how she has to give up her kits.
For the record, I know I’ve commented that Blue Sue hasn’t had to make any hard decisions, and I know I shouldn’t be griping now that she has to, but it’s just so freaking CONTRIVED. None of this makes any sense at all. The whole basis for her decision is a vague prophecy from a highly questionable source, and a random hallucination/sign. I just…fff.
It flips to Gathering time, which Blue Sue is attending. She finds Oakheart and he asks about the kits. She tells him their names and says she can’t keep them, asking him to take them. He warns her that they’ll be raised as RiverClan warriors and never know she was their mother. She says she understands.
“Would her kits forget her so easily? How could she let them grow up without her? She had to –or they would drown in blood with their Clanmates when Thistleclaw came to power. (Riiiight.) She had to trust in StarClan. (HAHAHAHAno.) And in Oakheart. (Somewhat more reasonable.)”
Oakheart says he can see this isn’t like her and that she’s a good mother. (Hear that? That’s the sound of my laughter shattering window panes) “Her voice cracked. “I can’t be what I want to be. I need to be as a strong as fire. I need to save my Clan (from Thistleclaw’s EVULNESS).”
However, the following line actually is slightly touching: “It is for the best,” she whispered. “I hope they know they have been loved. Even if they don’t remember me, I hope they know that.”
Awww. Even with all my cynicism I have to admit that’s kind of sweet.
“Please, StarClan. Let this be the path you truly wish me to follow.”
…and then my cynicism returns full force.
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Post by cloudbat on Oct 7, 2012 20:41:04 GMT -6
Blue Sue is waking up her kits to go on a magical adventure, i.e, into the frigging winter full of deep snowdrifts.
Because? Because she has to give up her children for the sake of a vague prophecy she heard from a drug-addicted hobo.
Woo! I love plots driven by real problems and sacrifices that have an actual point, don’t you?
Mosskit raises an excellent point by saying that they are too little, which is true. As I recall, they’re only about half a moon old. While I could rant all day about how their absurdly inaccurate physical and mental development makes me feel like skinning people and feasting on their organs, that’s not the focus of this Diary.
The focus is that Mosskit is right. There is no reason I can possibly think of that would explain why Blue Sue even has to take them to Oakheart right this second, WHEN IT IS COLD AND THEY ARE TINY CHILDREN, just so she can become deputy. Sunstar has been content to let Tawnyspots die slowly and not choose a successor, why do you think he’s suddenly going to remember the book is supposed to have a plot?
Albeit a plot that resembles something a hormonal, gothy 13 year old made while on a sugar high.
For anyone who doesn’t remember: Tawnyspots is the current deputy, and he has been dying slowly and painfully for a while. Sunstar hasn’t chosen a new deputy yet. Blue Sue wants to be it, and she can’t because she has kits.
If you tell me he can’t choose a new permanent deputy because Tawnyspots isn’t dead, I will eat your eyes and deliver a lecture to your empty sockets. It’s clear the guy is slowly dying in agony, he’s not going to do his job again. Choose another cussing deputy.
But no, Sunstar waits because…why? Because melodramatic angst is why.
Anyway, moving on.
And then Blue Sue uses the “dirtplace tunnel” to sneak out of camp. Despite there being “No sign of life.”
So they have to go through the crap path…why?
Also, why in cuss’s name would cats have one communal litter box, if you will? Cats in the wild don’t work like that, they go where they want to go. If anything this is a reversal of natural cat behavior because they mark their territory that way. Even cats living in clowders (or Clans) would not do that.
Apologies if that disgusted anyone, but still.
Wait, I just discovered why they have to sneak out of camp. Apparently Stormtail is on guard and has lost his nose. I’ll probably find it in a plot hole.
At one point Blue Sue wonders what she’s doing…and then keeps going.
No, stop, do not pass Go, and if you try to take 300$ dollars I can’t guarantee it won’t eat your hand.
Woman, why is your ambition more important to you than your CHILDREN? I thought this was the opposite of what we have been taught so far? Oh, wait, there’s a prophecy and you’re fire and crap. Never mind, moving on. Ignore Morals Dissonance waving its behind at you and making raspberries.
“She had to get them to Sunningrocks! ThunderClan depended on it.”
No.
Just. No.
A) Again, you are basing this judgment on what evidence? A stoner’s advice? Your own bias against someone you have never liked?
B) You are handing your children over to someone you had a one-night stand with, and who you barely know. Also, you are risking their lives to do this.
C) Even if Thistleclaw became leader, I imagine that if he were too much of a murderous tyrant, HE WOULD BE DEPOSED. Because even though the word of the Clan leader is the warrior code, I’d like to believe ThunderClan isn’t quite that stupid. Yet.
Moving on!
And then we get to my favorite part of the chapter: snow-holes.
Blue Sue digs a hole “in the snow underneath some ferns” to keep her children warm, digs another one, carries them to it, and repeats this all the way to Sunningrocks. Why?
I mean no she can’t carry them all at once but HEY maybe she should’ve THOUGHT of that. Wait, why am I even trying to use logic here. Never mind.
Also, she promises them she’ll always come back after she leaves them in the first hole and realizes how that sounds after she says it. No, Blue Sue, I have no sympathy for you. You dug yourself into this grave, and I hope you die kicking and screaming.
They reach Sunningrocks. “I will love you forever, my precious kits. Thank you for spending this moon with me.”
Okay I was wrong, they’re a month old. Still.
Also, gag me. You are the worst mother ever, Blue Sue.
And now Mosskit dies.
Who is surprised? Vote? Show of hands?
Apparently “It was her time.” Says Snowfur who came to fetch her.
No. Bullcrap.
It was her time because her own cussing mother dragged her out into the snow for the sake of her own ambition and effectively let her die.
Seriously, Blue Sue is more ruthless than most of the villains we see in these books, no matter how much sugary sweet “love” she wraps it up in.
“Where’s the other one?” (Oakheart)
“Dead.”
That’s it. The total summation of Mosskit’s mother’s feelings for her.
Wow.
She then buries her daughter and goes back to camp, ripping a hole in the nursery and pretending that a fox stole her kits.
Which somehow works, despite THE LACK OF CUSSING FOX SCENT.
I am disgusted.
*flips a table*
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Post by celestialsquared on Oct 7, 2012 20:45:49 GMT -6
I'm seriously sitting here covering my face with my hands and shaking my head. Why? Why is Bluefur sitting here actually listening to her insane uncle? Why do I have a feeling that he was named Goosefeather just so I can't take him seriously? Why did I continue to read this book past this part when it made me so mad? /cry
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Post by bbun on Oct 7, 2012 21:03:52 GMT -6
Its official: Crookedstar is a much better cat(or at least more tolerateable) than Bluestar. She is selfish and careless, and a big ol' marysue.
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Post by Grey on Oct 7, 2012 22:01:37 GMT -6
Why in the ever-loving anything at all would a tom be naming a kit? Seriously? Why is this a trope of Warriors? How does this exist?
I am all for gender equality, but this is ridiculous. They are more her kits than they're his (especially so in the case of Thrushpelt). I think it's the mother's right to choose her kittens prefixes, and guys can take a hike.
I know, these cats are anthropomorphised - they're in love, all those shenanigans. For some reason, toms are expected to be active fathers (and yet, they are never actually shown to be doing so), and these cats are weirdly monogamous. These inconsistencies are giving me a headache, though. There appears to be absolutely no canonical explanation of how toms in a clan should react to their kits, or kits in general, and while this is partially due to individual personalities, it pretty much makes a whole farce of the clan system in my eyes.
Erin Hunter, if you don't know what you're saying/doing/implying, it's okay to take five minutes off and ask for help.
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Post by cloudbat on Oct 19, 2012 17:14:12 GMT -6
"How does this exist?"
Hopelessly incompetent authors.
"and guys can take a hike. "
That's too realistic, Grey. Blasphemy.
"Erin Hunter, if you don't know what you're saying/doing/implying, it's okay to take five minutes off and ask for help."
Sorry Grey, making a lot of money and pandering to the fandom is much more important. (I bet you thought I was Erin Hunter, my imitation is so flawless.)
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Post by Grey on Oct 19, 2012 18:46:05 GMT -6
You have no idea how tricked I was just now, and then how betrayed I felt when it turned out you weren't actually Erin Hunter. You are a cruel and unusual lady, and you have my respect, you witch. Ehehehehehe.
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Post by cloudbat on Oct 19, 2012 20:53:56 GMT -6
We're back on the air, folks! Broadcasting live from Rhode Island! *confetti and applause*
It's a month since Blue Sue showed herself to be the worst cussing thing ever.
"The Clan believed Bluefur's story - that she'd awoken to find her kits gone. Every cat believed that they had been stolen by an animal that had clawed a hole in the back of the nursery, driven by starvation to venture into the camp for the first time."
No.
No.
Just. No.
I can spy a LOT of problems with this alibi, but like I said before: There's. No. Scent. Yes it's cold, yes it's hard to pick up scents but there should be SOMETHING if they think it's a badger or fox or whatnot.
Second off, why the HECK didn't Stormtail notice a hole in this alibi. He was on guard, yes? I'm betting he would've heard or smelled SOMETHING creeping up on the nursery even if he didn't see it. Also, you'd think if an animal had come in, SOMEONE would have woken up. Anybody at all. Cats are not deep sleepers despite the fact that they do sleep a lot.
In other words, her alibi sucks and ThunderClan are morons. What else is new.
"They'd searched the forest for days, not knowing where to look, the scent trail killed by the freezing snow."
What. What is this I don't even. Assuming you believe the alibi, the kits were EATEN by something. Why in the name of all that is holy would you SEARCH for them? What are you expecting to find, kit-shaped droppings?
Excuse me while I introduce my face to a desk very intimately.
"Bluefur had scoured the woods with her Clanmates, numb with guilt, reminding herself over and over that she'd done it for her Clan."
wshdodldjdkdjdkdlsls NO. You did it because you're a ruthless psychopath following the advice of a drug addict to further her selfish ambitions. That did not help your Clan, that will never help your Clan in any conceivable way possible and you effectively KILLED ONE OF YOUR OWN CHILDREN.
"She was sick of telling lies."
...
Ha. Ha. Ha.
no.
If you were sick of telling lies, you would not have done what you did. You dug yourself this hole and I will watch with joy as you die in it.
"She felt as though the shard of ice piercing her heart would never melt."
That's a bloody lie, no one forced her to do what she did and if you cite Thistleclaw I will shoot you with a potato gun. He is not a good enough reason to justify the death of a child, for all he would supposedly drown ThunderClan in blood.
"They'll be safe with Oakheart."
I find that rather questionable, but moving on.
"Was Mosskit watching from StarClan, hating Bluefur for stealing her life?"
She darn well better be.
"Had Snowfur explained that her life been sacrificed for the good of the Clan?"
*takes binoculars* *looks around*
Yes I see everyone's lives greatly improved by the death of Mosskit. They have progressed so much, including two extra warriors standing in the cold each night and doing pointless, energy-wasting searches.
Real, solid benefits here directly from her death.
*table flip*
Adderfang asks her to join a hunting patrol, she says she'd rather hunt alone and angst more.
Rosetail asks her if she’ll be all right, and she thinks that “nothing will ever be all right ever again.”
I wonder whose fault that is. I may never know.
Goosefeather the medicine cat/hobo/addict turns up.
"It was jarring to hear a Clanmate speak to her in a voice that wasn't honeyed with sympathy."
Thank God.
"Did he have another stupid prophecy to ruin her life?"
How in the -
I don't -
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Blue Sue you ruined your own nouncussed life by following his "prophecy" yourself. You had no obligation to, it's well known he's the mayor of Crazy Town, YOU CHOSE THIS. Stop blaming other people for what you've done to yourself. I don't feel an iota of sympathy for you because you are not sympathetic, intelligent, or a good/interesting protagonist in any way whatsoever.
Screw. You.
Also Goosefeather somehow magically knows that she actually took the kits away herself. Don't ask me why, he's supposed to be nuts and barely notice anything in the real world these days.
""You did the right thing." His words made her bristle. "For whom?" "For your Clan."..."The prophecy left no room for kits. You must blaze alone at the head of your Clan."
Because?
Because...?
Because shut up that's why.
No reasons are given. Why Blue Sue HAS to be leader anyway, why she HAS to be alone, why the ding-dang-dong all this pointless melodrama had to happen.
And why Mosskit is still dead. I know I keep harping on that but it's unbelievable.
This will be continued tomorrow.
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Post by cloudbat on Oct 20, 2012 21:14:40 GMT -6
Annnnnd we're back.
""Is that supposed to make me feel better?" she hissed. She hated the prophecy and hated Goosefeather for telling her about it."
But your incentive for fulfilling the prophecy was...what? You wanted to feel special? Burn down everything with pyromania? The plot told you to?
Also raises the question of if Goosefeather hadn't told her about it, would it still have happened (whatever the heck it means anyway)? My guess is no, and then we wouldn't have a book, but it's an interesting point to debate. If we're taking what he says at all seriously. Which I don't. Still.
"Goosefeather blinked. "It is not your destiny to feel better. It is your destiny to save your Clan."
It is also not your destiny to eat a sandwich or breathe in an off tempo on Tuesdays.
Really though. Goosefeather's basically saying "Screw you, my vague as cuss wordings are much more important than your family and emotions." I may not like Blue Sue but he's even more of a huge jerk.
""And I will," she growled, her mew as hard as flint. "But I will always regret what I've done.""
Again, save her Clan from what? Thistleclaw? Again, why is he so terrible? Sure he's a bit bloodthirsty, but seriously, we have no idea what his actual motives are beyond some hackneyed lines such as marking borders in blood. For we all know, the experience of being deputy would turn him into a better cat and a good leader. But that would be far too interesting.
""The kits were your choice," Goosefeather pointed out. "StarClan made no provision for them.""
...you gotta be kidding me. While it WAS stupid of Blue Sue to do the dirty with someone she barely knew especially when she wanted to become deputy, not being able to have a family at all is friggin' stupid. And really cussing callous of StarClan.
Blue Sue says that StarClan made her sacrifice everything she loved. Not true, but for once I can actually sympathize, mainly because StarClan really are a bunch of cussfaces.
Goosefeather states/asks that the kits are alive. Again, how does he know this. Blue Sue mentions that Mosskit is dead and Hobo says that StarClan will honor her loss.
"Bluefur shook her head, trying to clear it. Was she just being selfish? What was one broken heart compared to the safety of her Clanmates?"
You're selfish anyway, but this is true. Despite the fact that you're not really protecting them from anything in particular.
She says she'll serve her Clan and her uncle says Sunstar wants to talk to her.
The leader and our Sue meet up and she starts off the exchange with:
""Is this another lecture to tell me to leave the past behind?” she growled.”
Polite, respectful, and all-around just a swell girl she is.
Sunstar says it seems she’s destined to suffer. Perhaps he is lampshading the absurd amount of angst that composes this book.
Our lovely protagonist comments on how Sunstar looks older.
“Making ThunderClan strong and feared among the other Clans had cost him three lives in battle; sickness had taken another two.”
Wait. THIS guy lost three whole lives purely for the sake of battle? Yet he’s supposed to be good? No comprendo.
“Goosefeather had told her to aspire to leadership, but was this how she wanted to spend her days? Fretting and fighting and tired from the weight of responsibility?”
I find this odd because though the text tells us she has ambition (why and how are never described of course) so why is she suddenly (pardon the usage) having doubts? I thought this was what she wanted…for some reason? It’s never shown to us why she wants to be leader, what she would do with leadership, etc.
“I have no choice. StarClan has chosen my path.
Great to see you owning your life like that, Blue Sue. Inspirational you are.
““I can only tell you what I’ve told you before. Life goes on.””
Obla-di, obla-da, life goes on…badadada, life goes on~
Sunstar talks about seasons and rebirth and crap and says she’ll be even stronger than before. That’s kind of like saying a hard noodle is more difficult to break than a wet noodle.
They take a lovely stroll through the forest until Sunstar asks her if she’s ready to take on the deputyship.
Sunstar states that Tawnyspots won’t get any better and has asked to move to the elders’ den so a new deputy must be found. IT’S ABOUT FRICKIN’ TIME. But no, it had be delayed because…because I guess the Erins are paid by the word count.
“He gazed hard into her eyes.”
I now have an image of him pressing his face against hers, staring creepily.
He asks her if she wants to be deputy and she asks about Thistleclaw and wants to know why he wasn’t chosen. Does she just want to rub it in?
Sunstar basically says yeah he’s pretty chill but he’d bring us into a truckload of fights. This from the guy who spent three lives for that very purpose. Uh-HUH.
Again with borders being marked in blood. I still say there’s a secret corpse stash somewhere.
Blue Sue finally says she’s ready. Whoo.
She becomes deputy. I really don’t have much more to comment on about the ceremony.
No wait there’s one line.
“And when the time comes for you to take my place I pray you will shine at the head of our Clan.”
Bioluminescence must be a power granted to the particularly idiotic.
Thistleclaw cheers the loudest, apparently, to “fool the Clan.” Yeah.
Blue Sue goes on about all the oh so terrible things he’s (conveniently) done in front of her. “Only she knew what he was capable of.”
Only YOU can prevent forest fires Thistleclaw.
Sunstar swishes through lichen (pfff) and tells Blue Sue she has a lot to learn but he’s looking forward to mentoring her again. Joy.
She says she’s ready to learn. She darn well better be, god only knows how empty that head is.
She asks if she can voice her fears about Thistleclaw…which were already covered by Sunstar. Yes Erins, I know he’s the antagonist, I know he’s SOOO EVUL, you don’t have to keep beating me with a dead evil whale.
In an unusually interesting bit for the books, Sunstar reveals he has one less life than people think because it was never given to him. The reason is because Pinestar is still alive and it was counted against him.
“Bluefur narrowed her eyes. So she wasn’t the only cat in ThunderClan with secrets.”
Yes everyone else is totally honest and gullible and depthless.
Oh wait.
They are.
*facepalm x2 combo*
Blah blah they discuss how Sunstar keeps it a secret because of Thistleclaw, or so it’s implied. Yes because Thistle would be dumb enough to kill his own leader. Or at least I hope he wouldn’t be. I never know with this book.
Blue Sue yaks to herself about regrets and we get this final line:
“But I am fire. And this is the path I must follow.”
Because the plot, or what resembles a plot, says so.
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Post by Grey on Oct 20, 2012 21:42:58 GMT -6
I have always felt that Thistleclaw gets a really raw deal in this book. But this is just too much. I legitimately have no idea how to comment on this hideous inconsistency.
If I were a Thunderclan cat (thank my lucky stars I am not, because they are all as dumb as a bag of hammers), I would be supporting Thistleclaw, not Bluefur. Bluefur has done absolutely nothing to be respected for, and that's not even taking into account her dirty little secret with Oakheart and the kit she accidentally murdered in cold blood (pardon the pun, ehehehe).
Can someone help me double-check my facts? Because I would love to do a comparison of Bluefur's qualities versus Thistleclaw's. Something's telling me Sunstar has made the wrong call.
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Post by celestialsquared on Oct 21, 2012 7:28:15 GMT -6
If I were a Thunderclan cat (thank my lucky stars I am not, because they are all as dumb as a bag of hammers), I would be supporting Thistleclaw, not Bluefur. Bluefur has done absolutely nothing to be respected for, and that's not even taking into account her dirty little secret with Oakheart and the kit she accidentally murdered in cold blood (pardon the pun, ehehehe). That's just the thing. Why is Bluefur chosen to be deputy at all? She's done nothing special, shows little to no leadership skills, and the only thing the clan knows her for is being a magnet for tragedy. Excuse me, but the last leader I want is one that attracts tragedy. You mean to tell me there was no other candidate besides Bluesue and Thristleclaw?
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Post by cloudbat on Oct 21, 2012 11:13:18 GMT -6
Thistleclaw actually volunteered for herb gathering at one point, a task Blue Sue moans about repeatedly. He also fought a dog, which while he shouldn't have been able to do that anyway is still more heroic than anything Blue Sue has done.
Also you make an excellent point, Celestial, eheheh. Don't want the angst magnet for a leader.
Having another candidate would've made too much sense.
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Post by Lady Ten on Oct 25, 2012 22:01:21 GMT -6
What kind of a comeback even is this? Don't even think about feeling better, that's not part of your destiny.
That sounds like the kind of comment made out of insecurity.
Oh, he's cheering for me? He's not being a sore loser? He's celebrating for me? Well, he's a terrible person, so he must only be doing it as a trick, to make other cats think he's not a terrible person. It's just to fool the others. They don't know him like I know him.
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Post by celestialsquared on Oct 26, 2012 7:14:05 GMT -6
What kind of a comeback even is this? Don't even think about feeling better, that's not part of your destiny. Oh, that part grinds my gears. It just more proof of how devoted these cats are to a message that's never clear about anything. And what does it matter if she has kits? If her supposed destiny comes out the same way, she can practically do what she wants.
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