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Post by Mistytail 2.0 on Apr 18, 2013 13:02:39 GMT -6
- the reason that -paw is the apprentice suffix, not the suffix to represent speed, is because the word 'foot' in feline is actually referring to the entire leg and paw of an animal (such as a cat), and not just the leg or the paw/hoof/human foot/bird foot/whatever, collectively. Since a cat's speed relies on its legs and paws as a whole, it would be misleading to use either -paw or -leg to denote swiftness. The reason -paw was designated as the apprentice suffix in particular is because a cat's paws are endlessly useful in a myriad of ways without specialisation: a cat uses its paws to climb, hunt, fight, swim, run, move things around, you get the idea. Thus, it was appropriate to make the undifferentiated rank (as apprentices have no 'special skills' or anything yet) and mandatory suffix for every cat to be a valuable body part that doesn't have just one function, but plays a key part in almost every function. I think this could also be used to suggest that a Clan is "many paws, one body," which would help to instill a sense of unity and Clan identity in a young cat, especially since apprentices are known for being rebellious and troublemakers - when they truly understand the gravity of the name and how important it is to really be part of their Clan would be the first (or in some cases final) mark that they are truly ready for warriorhood. (Warriorship? What the hell is the word for that??)
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Post by Osprey on Apr 18, 2013 18:19:19 GMT -6
- anthropomorphism: - One thing lets make them more 'catish' than 'cats that act like humans'
- Have the fights, more cat-like, instead of this silly 'cat-fu' mess
- No super-tails
- clan culture:- ThunderClan: I image that ThunderClan is one of the bigger sized cats of the clans, their usually have short-fur, they tend be in more browns, tortoiseshells, tabbies, golden, and other colors to blend with the undergrowth.
- RiverClanHas more regular sized cats, usually with thicker fur and webbed paws.Their usually greys and blue-greys. They tend to be a lot oily due to main prey being fish.RiverClan cats like collecting pretty things to spruce up the camp with, and usually court a mate by giving them a pretty item.
- ShadowClan: Similar to ThunderClan size, but with darker colors, to blend in with the pine forest territory. Since they eat lizards and frogs, they are the best day-hunters.
- WindClan: A lot smaller clan, more wiry furred, with 'earthy' colors, such as lighter browns and golden-browns, they have sharper claws and the better reflexes.
- naming systems: -RiverClan usually has plenty of cats with the fish prefixes, also usally with -stream or -face.
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Post by Grey on Apr 19, 2013 7:56:59 GMT -6
That sounds really good, Misty. I like it.
Also, I think the term should be 'ultimate warriorness'. Ehehehe. (Actually, maybe just 'warrior life' would be the appropriate term?)
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Post by Grey on Apr 19, 2013 8:28:04 GMT -6
I have something I'd like to bring up with everyone, and that's the possibility of including a constructed language in the re-imagining. I really like that sort of thing, but I'm curious as to how everyone else would feel about it - do you think it could be a nice addition, or just unnecessary?
The reason I'm asking is because, as a little project, I've been making a language for cats - specifically, cats in a Warriors setting - and I'm interested as to whether or not I could actually get a chance to put it to use (very selfish, I know, ehehehe. I just can't seem to help myself).
So what's your feelings on the subject?
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Post by Cobalt on Apr 19, 2013 17:55:23 GMT -6
I have something I'd like to bring up with everyone, and that's the possibility of including a constructed language in the re-imagining. I really like that sort of thing, but I'm curious as to how everyone else would feel about it - do you think it could be a nice addition, or just unnecessary? The reason I'm asking is because, as a little project, I've been making a language for cats - specifically, cats in a Warriors setting - and I'm interested as to whether or not I could actually get a chance to put it to use (very selfish, I know, ehehehe. I just can't seem to help myself). So what's your feelings on the subject? DO. IT.
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Post by Mistytail 2.0 on Apr 19, 2013 23:51:12 GMT -6
Do it, Dr. Gre.
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Post by Grey on Apr 20, 2013 20:56:32 GMT -6
Thanks for the swift support, guys. I have made a little tumblr recently as a place for me to stash this language, but there's nothing on it at the moment. The URL is: furnacular.tumblr.com/
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Post by bbun on Apr 25, 2013 14:24:11 GMT -6
Ahhh, Grey, although that language is cool, to be honest, I don't think using it in this re-write would be a good idea. It would take quite some time to translate some things from cat-to-person, if you know what I'm saying ^^;;
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Post by Grey on May 1, 2013 23:34:02 GMT -6
I think there's been a misunderstanding. Valid point, of course, but I wasn't suggesting that the dialogue actually be written in anything other than English. That would be ridiculous and stupid. I was just thinking we could have a similar approach to Watership Down, at least in that some words/concepts are included (sparingly) to give a sense of culture.
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Post by Cobalt on May 11, 2013 23:03:04 GMT -6
However, I did like Misty's headcanon about the "bone-breaking". I thought that could be a nice way to fix the problem; cats might be able to count to nine without difficulty, but for numbers larger than nine or for addition or subtraction, they would have to use some kind of tally in order to visual it. Counting method might change between clans - for example, Thunderclan might count to nine, and the tenth number is represented by an acorn. So twenty-two would be "two, and two acorns"; compared to that, Riverclan might use the "bone-breaking" technique, and maybe only count to five before using the visual aid, hence twenty-two would be "two, and four bones". I think the nine-thing is good because, as Grey noted, nine seems like a pretty important number for cats. I didn't like the original idea much, but I do think this is cool. If you add this in they can count up to ninety-nine, which seems like all they should need. (late reply is late but oh well)
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Post by lemon on May 25, 2013 19:45:01 GMT -6
Wow, that cat language is really cool. Reminds me of Tailchasers Song. Sorry I don't have any ideas to add here. Seeing everyone else's suggestions and ideas is really cool though.
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Post by Grey on May 25, 2013 20:04:10 GMT -6
I've never read Tailchaser's Song, but thank you all the same. I just like languages, ehehe. Unfortunately, I don't have a lot of spare time at the moment - I have to wait until the holidays before I can do much more.
And yeah, I know what you mean. I really like reading about people's headcanons and concepts about things. If you ever have anything you want to write about, you're always welcome to.
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Post by hediied on May 27, 2013 8:51:39 GMT -6
As I think about the counting system people suggested more and more, I find it increasingly unecessary. Canon was not flooded in numbers and it supported itself completely fine. We should just use words like pair, couple, single. The 1-9 thing is much too reminiscent of other stories. Why rip off of those stories when there is actually no dire need for a counting system?
The bone-breaking idea is cute as a clan-specific phrase for taking a long time, though.
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Post by leah on May 30, 2013 18:46:09 GMT -6
Anthropomorphism:
How bout an expansion on the way they speak? For months they use the word "Moon" and use "Half Moon" to show a half-month, and days are called "Sunrises" (ie. Two Sunrises ago). And, Season is just used to represent basically 3 Moons. What about the word "Year"? They have, a few times, said the word "Year". I don't quite remember where, though I do recall a cat saying "Leaf-bare last YEAR" or something.
Also, could more words be added? The times are Dawn/Sunrise, Sunhigh, Sundown/Sunset, Twilight, Moonrise, Moonhigh, Moondown. I think these should be kept consistent, using the terms "Dawn" and "Twilight" to notify times between day and night, and the Rise, High and Down terms for both Sun and Moon. So, the new order could be "Dawn > Sunrise > Sunhigh > Sundown > Twilight > Moonrise > Moonhigh > Moondown > Dawn" with 8 terms, and 24 hours in 1 day, each term could be used to describe 3 of its own hours. Or maybe some terms could be used for longer time-intervals.
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